# Zion-Subway w/ Das Boot Standard add-on?

**URL:** https://forum.roadtripryan.com/t/zion-subway-w-das-boot-standard-add-on/252
**Category:** Trip Planning
**Created:** [April 13, 2025, 3:33pm UTC](https://forum.roadtripryan.com/t/zion-subway-w-das-boot-standard-add-on/252 "2025-04-13T15:33:07Z")
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### Author: ![afhigh](https://forum.roadtripryan.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@afhigh](https://forum.roadtripryan.com/u/afhigh)
#### Post date: [April 13, 2025, 3:33pm UTC](https://forum.roadtripryan.com/t/zion-subway-w-das-boot-standard-add-on/252/1 "2025-04-13T15:33:07Z")

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Hi! I got a subway permit and my friends want to do the standard Das Boot on top of it. There are 6 of us; how long do you think it would take a competent group that is this large? I don’t want to rush through the Subway, so I am debating whether we should add on the Boot or not… I really appreciate any thoughts on the matter.

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### Author: ![pothole](https://forum.roadtripryan.com/user_avatar/forum.roadtripryan.com/pothole/32/316_2.png) [@pothole](https://forum.roadtripryan.com/u/pothole)
#### Post date: [April 15, 2025, 12:16pm UTC](https://forum.roadtripryan.com/t/zion-subway-w-das-boot-standard-add-on/252/2 "2025-04-15T12:16:54Z")

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If doing the standard entrance, I think it is a good way to go.

If doing the full upper entrance to Das Boot, which adds a lot more good stuff, I think you would be better off not combining. Full Das Boot and Subway would be a very long day for most I think.